Looking to build a 10R since there seem to be no second hand hulls around. I remember seeing a chined design on here some time ago, but can no longer find it. 

I know that this hull form is not necessarily the best, but I can cobble one together in a few days; as previously done for a foiling Mini40 not so long ago (now sold on) Also cheap as chips and light enough to come close to CF in that hull form.  Can anyone point me in the direction of the lines for that chined 10R ?? I do remember that it was a well known designer.

Richard

I think you mean the Roger Stollery designed 'Pieces of Eight' ?

Shaun.

There is always Nookie Bear, available as a plan from Sarik (https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/nookie-bear-radio-10-rater-plan/)

OR   Vic Smeed's Spook   (All Radio Sailboats - Design: Spook)

If you are into 3D printing, there are a couple of options herehttps://3dprintedradioyachts.com/10-bananas-10r-first-major-regatta/

Edited October 18, 20214 yr by tiggy_cat

Thank you Tiggy_cat, had a look at those two. Both pretty heavy displacement hulls I'm afraid. Pieces of Eight looks about the sort of hull ; Thank you Shaun. Long and thin and easily adjusted from lines for a 4Kg all up weight. 

Will try to see if any lines are available.

Contact Roger Stollery I’m sure he would share the drawings with you!

From what was posted previously, I understood that Pieces of Eight was a very radical design i.e. it was special design for use in very light airs as it had a very short waterline length and hence a large sail area.  I also think that it a had a mast height which would now be illegal on a new boat.  Whether you think this is a good basis for a new boat is your decision.  You might be better of adapting a current design to chined construction.  You could use two chines and produce a cross between an Enterprise and a modern 10R.  Eat you heart out Dr Frankenstein.

 

 

Thanks John, looked like a short WL as you confirm; Enterprise analogy noted.  What I need is a design with a long WL and, obviously narrow beam. Where can I find a list of boats and their characteristics ?

Problem is that 10R's seem incredibly rare despite looking like a very interesting and exciting class. Not a sniff of any older design (not vintage I must add) hull for sale anywhere.  

Older ones occasionally come up for sale on ebay but they are usually heavier and not competitive today.

You would be better chatting to fleet captains at the bigger 10R clubs like the round pond, or Hampton Court as they may know of things for sale that might not get advertised on here!

Edited October 25, 20214 yr by Dave Kent

Have a chat with Roy Stevens (roy 'at' grtayton.co.uk), I've currently got his 10r Sonix round the back of my dining table and I know he is looking to sell her - I sailed her in this years nationals the other month and thoroughly enjoyed myself, even won a race which is a miracle for me. Plus the price is very good.

I am quite new to 10Rs, so am no authority, but to quote from a Yachts and Yachting article "Any boat can be a 10 rater and several Marbleheads have been successful in the class by conversion with just one larger rig giving 40% extra sail area" so this could offer another avenue to explore. Although not necessarily hard chine, there are lines available for a number of Marbleheads, including Brad Gibson's Indie.

Also PJ Sails offer the hull for their Tension design 10 rater for a not unreasonable £175.

 

Thanks Dave; have contacted the Round Pond and got some useful info. Also lots of info from Australia.

Thanks also Ditton Dabler. Have been down the Marblehead route some time ago. My current interest in the 10R is to sail a boat with a really useful WL. The idea of the chined hull was to build something really quickly, not necessarily competitive. For example my last MIni40 centre hull only took a few days to knock together.

Will follow up leads on other boats.

Richard

Now have lines for "Pieces of Eight" thank you Roger.

Looks a really interesting boat and was designed for the light flukey conditions that I sail in regularly. I will shortly start the build. I have changed my design requirements, as you may have noticed. The original long WL was to suit a potential foiling boat. I like the look of the 10R class so much that I have decided to go down the "class: route and will build a 10R accordingly

I am looking for a max luff top suit, in useable condition , if any one has any spare sails they do not need.  Will place a note on the "wanted" also.

Edited October 31, 20214 yr by Richard98
additional info

Worth contact GB see what he has lying around. I recently got a M/10R top suit from him for a reasonable price. 

On 18/10/2021 at 10:43, Richard98 said:

Looking to build a 10R since there seem to be no second hand hulls around. I remember seeing a chined design on here some time ago, but can no longer find it. 

I know that this hull form is not necessarily the best, but I can cobble one together in a few days; as previously done for a foiling Mini40 not so long ago (now sold on) Also cheap as chips and light enough to come close to CF in that hull form.  Can anyone point me in the direction of the lines for that chined 10R ?? I do remember that it was a well known designer.

Richard

Richard if you are still looking, I have a Spook without a keel weight. A mast is available, as is a main sail. I have not cast a weight yet but I have turned a casting pattern. I am located in Derby and I would consider an offer for it before I progress.

Thank you for your interest, Eric and for your offer to sell me your Spook. 

I began building Roger Stollery's design last week and attach a picture of progress, so far.  So I am not really looking for another boat any more.

However, would be interested, as I'm sure others would be too, in details of your build and some pics if you felt like putting them up on the forum.

Richard

 

Flotation - Basin trials.

Floated in my test tank; Hickling canal basin at the end of our road. 

Bang on the WL marks  1150mm - thanks Roger. Now to cobble together a rig and go sailing. Will be using a smallish 20250mm luff before I work out the allowable sail area, now I know the WL. Tested with 3.5Kg ballast, all electrics fitted and a dummy weight for the rig.

Richard

 

First sail, with a small rig. Perfectly balanced and seems very quick. Just need to get used to the length when tacking; compared to a One Metre.  Looking forward to getting the full 1.08695 sq M rigged up.

Richard

 

Richard, 

what did you use for the deck covering?

Likely Dacron patch material! 

Hello Eric.  Dave is correct; It is self adhesive Dacron, available from all the MYA sail makers. Worth buying a large quantity because it is so useful.

Richard

It's possibly cheaper here if you want a large amount (they also do end of rolls etc)

https://www.profabrics.co.uk/products/adhesive-dacron?variant=5940860675

 

Also worth looking in local sailmakers they stock material for sail numbers etc, certainly Pinnel and Bax do it would expect most others to do it too

Was asked what rig I was sailing with for that first sail. 1720 Luff with 520 foot; so quite small really. Sort of 6M size I suppose.

Richard

Another sail, this time with a taller, higher aspect 10R rig -  thanks John for the sails.  Still some area to add though.

Richard