September 2Sep 2 Just looking for info,the above company offer a sail measuring service if you order sails from them.Is this ok for the UK ?.Mike Willett.
September 2Sep 2 Hi Michael,this question was discussed on the IOMICA forum. Essentially you are asking about IOMICA licenced 'Certified Sailmakers'https://www.iomclass.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=13188#p13188If you do not have access, here is the question and the answer.John Certified sailmakersPost by Art Prufer » Sun Feb 15, 2026 9:02 amAccording to this rule:G.2.2 CERTIFICATION (a) Except where sails are certified as in (b) the official measurer shall certify sails in the tack and shall date each with the date of certification control. (b) An MNA may appoint one or more persons at a sailmaker to certify sails produced by that manufacturer. A special licence shall be awarded for that purpose.AND ON THE RIG MEASUREMENT FORM:MAINSAILS31. G.2.2(b) If the sails have been certificated by a manufacturer awarded a special license, then omit steps 32 to 60HEADSAILS60. G.2.2 (b) If the sails have been certificated by a manufacturer awarded a special licence, omit steps 62 to 86Where can we get the list of manufacturers who have been awarded this special licence, and what sail markings are required to indicate that they have been 'pre-certified' ?Last edited by Art Prufer on Mon Feb 16, 2026 12:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.Art PruferCRYA #1189 Can 42and the answer from IOMICAAndrew Crocker Vice-chairman (Technical)Re: Certified sailmakersPost by Andrew Crocker » Thu Feb 19, 2026 1:45 pmHi Art,Thanks again for your question.The short answer is that there are no licensed IOM class sailmakers in the terms of Class Rule G.2.2(b).G.2.2(b) was adopted into the IOM Class Rules from the World Sailing Standard Class Rules (SCR) and refers to the World Sailing In-House Equipment Certification (IHC) programme – see https://www.sailing.org/inside-world-sa ... ification/. At present, the International One Metre class is not a participating class association and, given the way in which the IHC programme operates, it is difficult to see how it would be feasible. As a result, there are no certified IOM sailmakers.The VC Measurement is reviewing this process with a view to making it more relevant for IOM sailmakers and owners.RegardsAndrew
September 2Sep 2 MichaelYou have two Sail Measurers listed for Two Islands see https://www.mya-uk.org.uk/members-area/#home/measurers-m/Therefore, you can buy sails from any sail maker (UK or otherwise) for the IOM and get it measured locally.Peter
September 2Sep 2 Author Thanks for reply’s.I have had a discussion with our club sail measurer.Just needed to get more clarification.
September 2Sep 2 In defence of buying elsewhere, it can be, … “ I ripped a sail and need a new set next week” and some people have order books months longI have bought all over the place, but measured in UK, Edited September 3Sep 3 by Stephen B To explain, I was defending Mike who might want sails quickly
September 3Sep 3 You may have noticed an announcement recently that the RYA has approved the use of the MYA training programme for sail measurers.If there are clubs, districts or individuals who are keen to build up a group of sail measurers in their area it is now possible without having to find an RYA course or travel long distances.Its taken a while, but sail (and class) measurement are now in our own hands and its up to us to make it work.Please PM if you wish to know more.Darin
September 3Sep 3 As SailsETC closest measurer I can assure you that I measure plenty for Graham's customers
September 3Sep 3 54 minutes ago, Guzzilazz said:As SailsETC closest measurer I can assure you that I measure plenty for Graham's customersI think the question relates to sails brought from outside the UK and signed by another DNM measurer.It's one of those rules that doesn't make much sense if you are the customer.
September 3Sep 3 38 minutes ago, Guzzilazz said:I should have added that I measure sails Graham has sold overseas... 😁.. and if they were coming to Australia would need to be remeasured by an ARYA approved measurer to be accepted as class compliant under the NCA. Edited September 3Sep 3 by womble66
September 3Sep 3 "Select "Yes" if you want official IOM measurer to measure and officially mark your sails (signature) so they are ready to be used on next IOM class regatta."While Sailboat RC will have the sails measured exactly as stated (by an independent measurer, not a specially licensed "in-house" measurer), they do not make it clear that the sails are only "ready to be used" in CRO.
September 3Sep 3 6 hours ago, womble66 said:.. and if they were coming to Australia would need to be remeasured by an ARYA approved measurer to be accepted as class compliant under the NCA.Seems odd (and/or illogical) for an "International" class. How tortured and officious does this really need to be? Edited September 3Sep 3 by Colin Helliwell
September 4Sep 4 5 hours ago, Colin Helliwell said:Seems odd (and/or illogical) for an "International" class. How tortured and officious does this really need to be?Sounds illogical but complies with the Class Rules as detailed above in the post that provides the reasoning from the IOMICA VC Technical ... Edited September 4Sep 4 by womble66
September 4Sep 4 Just to muddy the waters -The class rules for all three active IRSA international classes (IOM,10R, M) follow the same general format for their class rules, and give jurisdiction for measuring to the recognised national authority in each member country. The format is structured to reflect the Equipment Rules of Sailing (ERS).Section A for each of the Class Rules use BOLD type as a reference to defined terms in the ERS and all three classes use the term Official Measurer. I have found an anomaly - the issue is that the term Official Measurer is not a defined term in the ERS. The defined term in ERS is Certification Measurer. The wording is consistent with what we would intend for an official measurer but is not identified correctly.I have reported this discrepancy to the IRSA to verify and to follow up with the ICAs.From the ERSC.4.4 Certification MeasurerA person appointed or recognised, by the MNA of the country where the control takes place, to carry out certification control and when the class rules permit, certification. An MNA may have delegated this responsibility.John
Saturday at 11:425 days "It's one of those rules that doesn't make much sense if you are the customer.""Seems odd (and/or illogical) for an "International" class. How tortured and officious does this really need to be?"As I understand it, the point of requiring the Certification Measurer to be appointed or recognised by the MNA of the country where the control takes place is to establish jurisdiction. In the case of GBR, this means that the MYA can take any steps necessary to ensure trustworthy certificates and, if needed, to pursue dodgy practices. Otherwise, a measurer not appointed or recognised by the MYA (or RYA) is "out of reach".
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