RME 01 Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 I am new to this site and would appreciate some advice. By way of background I have sailed most of my life and have always loved displacement classes and particularly the metre boats (a great shame they moved the Americas Cup from 12’s!). Anyhow now in sailing retirement I am thinking of building a model 6 initially just for pleasure sailing but perhaps competitively should I move near a club in future . I have built a number of planked static models in the past and whilst this would be on a larger scale I am moderately relaxed about this. The issue is the design. As far as I can see from the web the only commercially available plans are the Force 6 and Petrel (the latter has the advantage of the build being covered by the planking article on the site). Are any other plans available elsewhere (being a traditionalist I would be interested if Dolphin ones were)? Any suggestions or advice would be much appreciated
Gareth Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 Frank Russell does a 'modern' 6m plan for a design called Cerberus. There is a link to his website here :-http://www.frankrusselldesign.com/plans/ I recently saw a video of one sailing in the UK and there is a link to it here:- https://www.facebook.com/984091914998651/posts/4550253138382493 You can probably contact the builder for information via the Facebook page.
Mirafiori Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) RME 01 http://sixmetreyachts.blogspot.com/?m=1 I believe Neil has a hull available and Sails. There is not a lot of information for the Force 6 and from what i gather it was the second design from the Australian Designer. Frank Russell Cerberus 6M looks very nice. Edited November 1, 2020 by Mirafiori
Mike Ewart Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) The Cerberus by Frank Russell is a nice middle of the road design there was one out at our club for its maiden voyage on Saturday I was impressed with its windward performanc, there are some other designs around, The Romanza from Sails etc, there are also designs from John Lewis book worth looking at. Where do you intend to sail,as the club you choose could alter the class you sail, there archaeology 3 displacement classes out there, the six metre, the A class and The 36 R class and you really need to be sailing the same class as your chosen club Edited November 3, 2020 by Mike Ewart Poor spelling Mike Ewart
RME 01 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Posted November 3, 2020 Thanks for the replies; Cerberus looks interesting and I will follow up, likewise Romanza and the other Bantock designs which I now understand are still available . In both cases there are some useful build photos on the web which help. On which point any thoughts on Petrel which again has useful build log on the MYA site? Mike - I take your point about right boat for right club. I presently live in the welsh borders a long way from any racing club and whilst this will I suspect change in the next year or 2 my immediate interest is in a building project for the winter with pleasure sailing hopefully to follow in a local lake. I did look at a number of other classes courtesy of Chris Jackson's book and the MYA site. The A class boats are certainly magnificent (I saw them some time ago at Gosport) but a little large for a first project! The 36R's are at the other end of the scale and whilst one might make more sense at this stage my heart is in the 6's as "proper boats" most closely aligned to my past sailing. Thanks Mirafiori re the Scottish dolphins. Tempting to get me started but as above my plan is a build for the pleasure/frustration and to keep me occupied through what looks like a very long winter!
Mike Ewart Posted November 5, 2020 Posted November 5, 2020 I am certainly not one to move you away from the six metre for obvious reasons, in your situation I would go for a Rococo, easier to build than a Romanza and a popular and good all round design, I personally prefer the Ravenna but pundits do tend to prefer the Rococo Mike Ewart
RME 01 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Posted November 6, 2020 Thanks for that Mike. i had rather come to the same conclusion having read Graham Bantocks design notes and looked at the pictures of the build - with the fairly dramatic steps it looked a nightmare to plank. As a result I did email Sailsetc to enquire whether Rococo plans were still available and received a firm reply that they were "if you insist" but i should be looking at Romanza!! Anyhow in the event I have decided to go with Cerberus and have got the plans from Frank RusselL I like the design a lot and hopefully work on the shadows can start next week when our (Wales) lockdown ends and I can get access to an A3 printer. The next issue is to source a supplier of WRC strip for the planking. Any suggestions?
Mike Ewart Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 I sailed Geoff Raygadas Cerberus on its first outing ad was particularly impressed on how well she went to windard Mike Ewart
Derek Priestley Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 How will she be when she sails for the "pole" ??
tiggy_cat Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 16 hours ago, RME 01 said: The next issue is to source a supplier of WRC strip for the planking. Any suggestions? http://www.cedar-strip.co.uk/
tiggy_cat Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 More exactly http://www.cedar-strip.co.uk/model_boats.html#content6-ay
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