Hi, has anyone got experience of replacing the Jib Swivel line on a Vinaixa built Britpop? If so an explanation would be appreciated.

For instance is there a removable sheet guide/bush fitted into the top of the tube. Which direction does the bottom bar run. (across the boat or along it?) 

Any preference on line used?

As the yacht does not have an access hole under the hull (like Sailsetc hulls) it almost seems like an impossible exercise.

Thanks in advance for any assistance

Eric, have you contacted Pepe Vinaixa (the builder) for advice? If this fails, let me know as I have a potential back-up solution.

Hi Eric. I did one not long ago. If you pm me with a phone no I will gladly give you a bell and explain how I did it. 

I have just had the same problem. When I looked with a video camera I saw a line crudely tied at an exit hole cut into the tube.  I had some very fine springy necklace wire (from Hobby Craft) and threaded that down and out through the hole near the bottom The pulled a line throught and terminated the lower end to a toggle that stopped at the hole. I will look to see what other folks say... with interest!! 

On the subject of Older Britpops does anyone have a source for the Plastic press on tops for the POT?

Hi Roger,

I have an early Spanish britpop and recall that it was delivered minus the pot. I fitted a sailsetc pot which has a screw lid. Therefore, I imagine whoever owned your boat from new, decided the type of pot used. 

Thanks, that is proably the case. The original owner is lost in time Iam the fourth owner I think. 

Has anyone actually managed to replace the jib swivel cord in the original format? 

If so an explanation would be appreciated. Do I presume when Vinaixa Britpop's were delivered new this line was already installed?

The replies I have had plus communication with Brad all replace the system either with a fixed deck hook or a stainless steel bar similar to those for smaller rigs.

I like the principal of the long cord to virtually the bottom of the hull as per Sailsetc & Barry Chisam designs. (Promoted by owning a Psycho)

I have thought of drilling the hull to replicate this system of fitting a replacement line at the bottom of the boat but retaining the above deck bowsie to tension the system. The issue with doing this is knowing accurately where to drill!  I am however reluctant to drill a perfectly water tight hull.

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Edited October 28, 20232 yr by CaptainScarlet
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Yes Eric, the jib connection was installed by the builder.

This is how |I fixed it . By feeding a thin wire and pullimh  through a line with a loop inside the tube , this had the Jib line run through the loop.

 

Thanks for the responses.

I have managed to pull through a line using the remnants of the original swivel line. I then pulled two lines through using that line. I therefore now have a new jib swivel fitted plus another line to use when required as a pull line for the next replacement.

I had previously asked Pepe about this and got the following information:- 

Pepe proposed a couple of solutions one being to drill the hull so I end up with a system similar to Sailsetc yachts (Paradox) or to try to use a fine line with a small weight on the end dropping it into the tube and then by inverting the boat hope it goes under/over the bar and then the line can be fed into the tube and the weight and line recovered. Then use this light line to pull through heavier line.

I was hoping that someone had come up with a simply solution! It appears from the replies I have received including a communication with Brad that the general consensus is to do away with Pepe's swivel solution. (I have to admit if a quick way of replacing the line was possible I do like the longer swivel line that the Spanish design allows)

At this time I intend to stick with the original design.

I am still interested to hear if anyone has successfully replaced a swivel line without an existing line to use to pull a new one in.

Eric

I use a kite line "sleeving needle".  In its normal usage it is used to cover the ends of spectra kite line with polyester sleeving. Where knots are tied in kite line, unless the sleeving is in place, the lines cut through themselves.

It's made from thin wire, bent and squashed in the middle.  This forms a tight loop, and when you feed a thin line into that squashed bit you can easily pull the line back through.

I use to feed the sheets through the boom eyes - feed the "needle" through first, feed the line into the squashed bit, pull back though. 

I also used to to replace the jib swivel line on my Fraktal.   

Edited November 7, 20232 yr by Guzzilazz

2 hours ago, Guzzilazz said:

I use a kite line "sleeving needle".  In its normal usage it is used to cover the ends of spectra kite line with polyester sleeving. Where knots are tied in kite line, unless the sleeving is in place, the lines cut through themselves.

It's made from thin wire, bent and squashed in the middle.  This forms a tight loop, and when you feed a thin line into that squashed bit you can easily pull the line back through.

I use to feed the sheets through the boom eyes - feed the "needle" through first, feed the line into the squashed bit, pull back though. 

I also used to to replace the jib swivel line on my Fraktal.   

Sounds very similar to what is used in fishing for threading elastic through fishing poles. Maybe reduce the length of it.

On 07/11/2023 at 17:26, HotTub said:

Sounds very similar to what is used in fishing for threading elastic through fishing poles. Maybe reduce the length of it.

I used mine yesterday to feed sheet lines though on the sedici, which has tubes running from gaiters on the forward bulkhead and then turns at right angles for the winch!  Worked a treat