There is a change to the IOMICA Class Championship Regulations which is in the right spirit, but sadly fails to comply with the requirements of the Racing Rules of Sailing.

Currently, the IOMICA CCR requires "7.3. Competitors from other World Sailing member countries where there is no Member NCA may be invited to enter an IOM Championship by the ESC subject to compliance with the foregoing and to compliance with Part 6 of the RRS."

The relevant rule in Part 6 of the RRS is Rule 75 which deals with the organisation which shall enter a competitor into an event.  The first part of the rule makes the IOMICA Class Championship Regulations the document which governs entry.

The IOMICA CCR requires the entry of a competitor to be made by that person's Member NCA.  The question arises, How is a "guest" entry to be made when there is no Member NCA?

The second part of RRS 75 identifies who is eligible to enter a competitor:  (a) a member of a club or other organization affiliated to a World Sailing member national authority,  (b) such a club or organization, or  (c) a member of a World Sailing member national authority.

Neither RRS 75(a) nor RRS 75(c) apply at an IOMICA International event, since according to the IOMICA CCR entry is not made by the competitor (the 'member') themselves or by their club, but by their country.  Hence it is RRS 75(b) which applies, meaning that entry must be from a country affiliated to World Sailing.  There are two kinds of country which are affiliated to World Sailing.  One is a World Sailing MNA, and the other is an IRSA DNM.

This is the proposed addition to the IOMICA CCR:  "If no DM is available to approve a guest's entry form, it shall be signed by Events SC Chairman and IOMICA Chairman".  There are some problems with this wording.

-- "DM" is not a defined abbreviation and so can mean anything we like.  It should read "IRSA DNM".

-- The issue is not the approval of the guest entry, since the guest has already been invited by IOMICA.  The issue is the entry itself of the guest.  The wording should read "enter a guest".

-- To retain consistency with Part 6 of the RRS and the other sections of the IOMICA CCR, entry of a guest where there is no Member NCA should be made by the guest's MNA or their DNM.  A  guest will (and must!) always be affiliated to either an MNA or a DNM, and it is reasonable to always require that a guest be entered by the organisation with whom they are affiliated.  It is not credible for a guest to be able to sail at a World Championship without being affiliated to either an IRSA DNM or a World Sailing MNA no matter who might sign their entry.  One is that there is no process for ensuring rules observance and associated disciplinary action with an unaffiliated competitor since their entry is outside the RRS if they are not affiliated.  Two is that there is no recognisable process for an unaffiliated competitor to obtain event insurance which can be acceptable to the event Organising Authority.

The correct form of the proposed addition to the IOMICA CCR should thus read, "A guest shall be entered by a World Sailing MNA or an IRSA DNM".

 

Correct Lester, all proposals are in the right spirit even if one of them needs a little adjustment at a later date.

All got a 'FOR' vote from me.

Saturday deadline, be quick, 5 minutes to read them.

Thanks Graham for your vote.

Lester, it's a shame that you couldn't suggest this change directly to IOMICA as a GBR proposal. 

But current suggested change allows IOMICA chairman and events VC to check if guest is or not affiliated to a DNM or a MNA. They won't sign an entry without checking this.

As Graham, I have voted For all motions.

Do i get an email to tell me that my vote has been received?

That has always been the case in the past, nothing this year!

34 minutes ago, Gavin Watson said:

As Graham, I have voted For all motions.

Do i get an email to tell me that my vote has been received?

That has always been the case in the past, nothing this year!

Just a message after you sumitted the form that is was succesful.

It has gone through.

3 minutes ago, Austin said:

Just a message after you sumitted the form that is was succesful.

It has gone through.

Hi Aus thanks for letting me know.

6 hours ago, Olivier Cohen said:

Lester, it's a shame that you couldn't suggest this change directly to IOMICA as a GBR proposal. 

Olivier, there are a number of shames here.

It is a shame that you have not explained to anyone that I brought this issue to your attention in the run-up to the Worlds in Croatia.

It is a shame that you have not told anyone how you rubbished my explanation of the issue and refused to do anything about it at that time.

It is a shame that you have not told anyone that I already explained to you how to fix the issue -- a guest must be entered by an MNA or a DNM.

And it is a shame that you come onto the MYA forum and now wish to shame me.

 

24 minutes ago, Lester Gilbert said:

Olivier, there are a number of shames here.

It is a shame that you have not explained to anyone that I brought this issue to your attention in the run-up to the Worlds in Croatia.

It is a shame that you have not told anyone how you rubbished my explanation of the issue and refused to do anything about it at that time.

It is a shame that you have not told anyone that I already explained to you how to fix the issue -- a guest must be entered by an MNA or a DNM.

And it is a shame that you come onto the MYA forum and now wish to shame me.

 

Lester, first of all, "it's a shame" in my writing is absolutely not an aggressive word as your answer seems to show. If you feel agressed, it was not my intention and please accept my apologies.

So I won't answer more to your post, not to add fuel to this fire. 

Good evening. 

It is a pity that these proposals have only just come to light, giving us 4/5 days to discuss and no time to discuss lakeside with MYA club members that sail IOM's.

How long has the MYA exec sat on these proposals? 

Is GBR not the biggest IOM collective vote in the World with the largest number of registered boats but we nearly missed the deadline, how can this be?

Thanks must go to Austin on getting this vote live in record time, you saved what could of been an extremely embarrassing situation for GBR IOM.

As usual there are posts here which do not reflect the truth and simply seek to knock others.

When I was covering the role of International Offficer I requested that all notifications from IOMICA  should be addressed to the correct MYA email address, i.e. international-officer@mya-uk.org.uk . When Lester volunteered to take on the role I informed IOMICA of the change in officer and reiterated the need to send notifications to the MYA email. Unfortunately this request appears to have been ignored or missed and notifications have been sent to my old personal email address which I do not monitor on a regular basis. When Rob Walsh contacted the MYA about this matter on Monday  5th  I checked the old emails and found the original notification was on 18th October to my personal email and, incidentally, came from a personal email with no indication of its IOMICA origin. This notification did not include any motions. The next communication which included the motions was on 30th November, again from a personal email address. So I apologise profusely for not picking up on this and losing 4 days of debating time!  It is also worth noting that there appears to be no mention of this AGM, at least anywhere obvious that I can see, its contents or motions, that I can find on the IOMICA website, which is surely the place where this type of event should be advertised to its members?

So before implying to the world that the MYA Exec have deliberately "sat on" anything I would suggest  a call or an email to check the facts would be a good idea, or better still, take the bull by the horns and do the job on behalf of the handfull of IOM skippers who actually give a damn and might possibly be affected by these motions.

It may be worth mentioning IOMICA Regulation 4.2: "Meetings of the World Council shall be publicly announced."

As can be seen on the IOMICA web site or forum there are no such announcements.  This sadly makes the meeting unconstitutional as of today's date.  This could be corrected if proper notice is given and the meeting rescheduled.

Results of the GBR vote attached. A low  turnout  which is disappointing with only 57 votes cast and 1 void due to no registration number not being provided.

 

 

International One Metre 2022 AGM Official Ballot.docx