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Hi Michael. Couple of questions. Is it just 1 suit of sails? Could you tell me the manufacturer please, and is there any damage at all to the boat. Any leaks etc. many thanks neil

Don't apologise, there is no need. In a forum like this , it is easy to get a picture which is not always complete. I did indeed hope to encourage a beginner, hence trying to ensure the boat was Ok and selling for a price which would barely cover the cost of the two suits of sails it came with, let alone the rest. Since Mark informed me of his issues, I have been asking around my sailing contacts to see if I could find an alternative IOM for him, and had found an unjoined hull and deck for a Stealth. Now that he has seen fit to make it the matter of public debate, I will just let things be.

Tiggy_Cat Sorry I only heard one-sided of the story. Like you said transportation in a small car can be done but removal of the keel & bulb is recommended. Plus possibly wrapped in a blanket to protect it. Please accept my apologies. The fact you replaced the winch suggest you wanting to help beginners.

As the seller of this boat, I must take exception to this post. I bought this boat from a well known builder who had sailed it with no problems. I have sailed it at club level and had absolutely no problems with water ingress. The buyer came and looked at the boat and was happy. If had wanted to see it sailing, that could easily have been arranged. On collection, it was placed in the boot of a car barely big enough to contain it, with the lead and keel left on. The buyer then informed me that he was due to take it on the next day back to Scarborough in a much smaller car still. I don't believe that travelling in this manner did the boat any favours. Mark contacted to me for advise and like the above posts I suggested using either Captain Tolley's or thinned resin swilled around the hull to seal any crack. I do not know if he has actually tried any of the suggestions. As to John Taylor's unpleasant remark above " They may compromise if shown the errors of there ways?" The boat was sold in good faith and fully sailable condition . In fact the day before collection, I had assembled it to check it over and as I was not happy with the winch, replaced it with a brand new unit Hardly the actions of someone trying to shift a "lemon". Perhaps instead of buying my Lintel, Mark should have spent 3 times as much and bought the one currently advertised in the For Sale ads.

Hi Mark sorry to hear you have been left with a bit of a . I have found the people involved in this hobby the totally opposite to your experience. Like John says contact them see if a compromise can be achieved. What did you get? Maybe see if anyone at your local club can help with repairing it

What make hull do you have

Built in 2017 but unused for the last 2 seasons. Designed by Dave Creed and built by Dave Potter I believe. A rig recent sails by Catsails in great shape B rig by Sails etc and look hardly used C rig by Sails etc and look unused Flysky FS16 transmitter Winch is noisy so probably needs lubrication. 1300mah LiPo battery included Based near Southampton Stand not included £850 ono. Call Mike on 07881 272746 or email michaeldjevans@hotmail.co.uk for more information

Put some tape over the bolt hole, turn the boat upside down and then fill the keelbox with water. This should tell you if the leak is at the top or the bottom of the keelbox i.e. does the level drop fast and then slow down/stop or does it drain all the way down to the deck level? If the latter then try 'painting' the inside of the box with epoxy. (Super glue is rather brittle and not waterproof long term). There should be some clearance at the top of the fin so a small amount of epoxy shouldn't stop the fin fitting. If the leak is between the keelbox and the hull then best bet is to run a fillet round the joint from inside the boat. if you use thinish epoxy the gravity can help if you can't reach everywhere.

Hi Mark I am sorry you have had a bad experience. It is a long shot, but can you make contact with the previous owner, describe your dissatisfaction with the condition of the yacht. They may compromise if shown the errors of there ways? In general terms, the price advertised can indicate the condition of the yacht being purchased. The cheaper the price the more work is required. That said, on occasions people will pickup some great deals. It’s all about being present at the time. Regards JT

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I could and have considered this. Thanks for these ideas, they are appreciated and have been considered. The fear is if I get it wrong I will not be able to refit the keel....

You can drip thin super glue down into the keel box from the outside, if water can get in then superglue can get to the hole/crack too .

Lovely curves Jim - sorry, Tony! You always have had a sunny disposition. Maybe I should take a trip to 'your' lake Tony. Is there a wind direction that it doesn't work well in, for freesailing?

Unfortunately it's the keel box that leaks the most, as well as the deck coming away from the Hull... Unfortunately non of this visible when I purchased it... every time I repair one area another appears, and unfortunately the keel box is not possible to get to despite my best efforts ....

Can you not wrap the hull in vinyl?

Really sorry to hear this, I bought my first boat and has been brilliant, and worked well. The second was claimed to be professionally repaired, and it sank, so found divers to recover it and now well repaired has sailed well. like cars, sometimes secondhand is brilliant and sometimes a money pit…. But I am not sure I could have sorted out the sinker on a test sail, as it was blowing when it sank with more leverage on the keel. you learn, unfortunately and I am still learning Stephen

Very nice Jef. Here's a yacht my dad made, probably in the early 60's. I can remember us taking it down to the yacht pond at Dovercourt in the mid to late 60's. The reason I think it was built in the early 60's is that it's named after me, my pet name was 'Jim' - no one calls me Jim any more. A girl friend did a double take when my mother called me Jim and I responded. Sunny Jim was my baby name, I had a sunny disposition then, the Force breakfast cereal character was Sunny Jim, I can remember that being a breakfast favourite at times. Dimensions are: 36" LOA (ex. bow sprit), 7" beam, 8" deck to bottom of keel. Looking a bit sorry for itself, hasn't sailed since late 60's or early 70's.

Can anyone offer purchase advise for newbies starting out in the model boat sailing world. I have unfortunately just purchased a boat that takes in water than a teabag . It is so bad, that it is to much of a risk to sail it... and can't find a solution to cure the issue due to the amount of leaks it has. One of them being unreachable. This has been a costly error due to my naivety I now having to start all over again and probably absorb the loss.... I regret not meeting the seller at his local pond when i collected it, to see the boat sailing when I collected would have been obvious at this point that it wasn't going to be a good purchase. To avoid this happening to other new members buying their first boat, can anyone offer purchase advice on what to look for and make sure someone is not just selling on their crap to an unsuspecting novice... Not just boats, but any related equipment may be helpful.

It's taken us a long hard slog to get the calculation and presentation of our series scoring together, so rather than other clubs trying to re-invent the wheel, I am happy to share what we use, our spread sheet follows the MYA best 5 out of 7/ 5 out of 9 events etc... and all the calculations are completed for you, the scores will also calculate to 2 decimal points, which breaks most ties, I can't take any credit for the workbook, this has been produced by the very clever Henry Farley, it will accommodate up to 18 events. Along with Afleet for our bankside scoring this has been a game changer for my admin post racing, clearly I am very happy to share the work book, and if needed can do a very quick zoom tutorial (it wont take long its that easy) you can see our series scores on our web site https://hryc.co.uk/series-results-2024/

Hi Guys, I am new here, so please excuse me if this is not in the right part of the forum. My Dad and I were founder members of the Basildon & District Model Yacht Club, in the early 70s. Dad went on to become a successful Marblehead skipper, and I believe he became National Champion at least once. I thought I had already posted here a year or more ago, when I found an old yacht in my parents loft, which I had built (with a lot of help from my Dad) as a young teenager (52 years ago), but as I can find no mention of my (imagined?) post here, that was possibly another forum. The 36R model is from a Vic Smeed design called the Gosling. It was of very light construction, and when it was complete, the structure was so airtight, the deck could be seen bulging if the boat was left in sun. I decided that was probably not good for its longevity and elected to drill a 1/16" diameter breather hole through the deck a few inches aft of the mast. After a few sessions sailing it, I decided girls were quite good fun, and it stayed in the loft until I had to deal with my parents estate. Despite the huge swings in humidity and temperature in the roof space of their semi-detached chalet, the model survived its time in storage totally unscathed. I like to think that was helped by giving it a vent. Anyhow, when we get time, my wife (whom I discovered a couple of years after building the Gosling) and I go to Maldon boating lake and sail the model. It fits in the car fully rigged. Please feel free to add your photos and stories below (or tell me where to repost this).

MX20-evo, GBR 4774, first registered in the UK on 26th March 2022. RMG SmartWinch Jelacic sails in good condition with sail box and accessories. Located in Gloucester. PM me if interested. £1200

Useful. Thank you - my understanding is enhanced, if far from complete!

Try the Vintage Model Yacht Group website and then look under Resources - How To Do It - Vane Sailing School.

I have purchased a couple of vane yachts in order to have a go at this part of the hobby. I have a Vane A and a Vane 36R - both beauties of “a certain age” and both equipped with rather lovely vane systems… which I have no clue about! In fairness to the vendor he has said that he will help me out if I turn up at Gosport on vane 36 day (which I will!) but I’m just trying to get ahead of the game. Attached are a few relevant pictures. Is there any resource that can get me started with understanding these glorious objects and how to use them? We are most interested initially in the 36R…

There is no record of measurement and Registration in the 10R Registrars records. This is not unusual for boats of this vintage as in those days there was only the original master copy of the certificate and this was kept by the owner. As the boat has changed hands since then. Any registration will have lapsed and the certificate would no longer be valid. However if either of you has an original certificate we are trying to make the records as comprehensive as possible and I would appreciate receiving a scanned copy of it for the records. Janice Uttley 10R Administrator.